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Magazine interviewed the Secretary General of
Hizbullah his eminence sayyed Hassan Nasrallah on its pages on 28-11-1997.
This is a translation from the French script:
It is a primarily precedent:
Sayyed (Mr.) Hassan Nasrallah tells his biography.
This was the first time during which Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah (the
Secretary General of Hizbullah) agrees to talk about his life, expressing
his satisfaction of not being totally bounded by his party, its
thoughts, motivations, struggle, and politics. This is a speech
that he addressed to the audience.
Charismatic is this man who has a soul made of steel. He adapts
easily to any continuous threat, which would strain the nerves of
any ordinary citizen, any anytime, and he is aware of this. Israel,
if it sees it is necessary, may seek his termination along with
his family, wife, and children, through shelling his residence or
strike him with r ockets on a countryside road, likewise his precedent
Sayyed Abbas al Musawi.
With high spirits, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah dealt with the martyrdom
of his eldest son Hadi, who was martyred during a clash with "Israelis,
as a father who was happy for the martyrdom of his son, for obtaining
the blessing of the martyrdom that opens the gates of the garden
for a believer.
This we have seen clearly on the screens of the TV. Sayyed Hassan
wanted to receive congratulations and not condolences, and he did
not issue any particular statement concerning the funeral.
This is another attitude according to close relations
without any allegations. The mans belief is very strong where
he received the news of his sons death without any complaints,
as if it was a general affair
Hadi who fought a short while ago in the lines of the Islamic
Resistance was subjected to such issue. His father thinks
its a great honor, concerning humane level, for his son to
fall in the field o f honor while facing the enemy. However, he
in particular is happy for Hadi attaining the blessing of martyrdom,
but let us avoid confusions, he misses the boy otherwise why
should someone be a father
He has visions of seeing
him and the regrets of a fathers affection. However, he deepens
into his belief hoping they will meet someday at the great and almighty,
and due to his blessing
He continuously resides in the shade of the "Israeli"
threat that regards him as a target, exactly like the occupation
of which the country is suffering, and against which Hizbullah is
fighting. Therefore, anything related to the character of the Secretary
General embodies an exceptional symbol within the party.
Truly overwhelmed by the picture of Imam Mousa al Sador:
His father Abdul Karim used to sell fruit and vegetable with the
help of his brothers. With a slight improvement of their circumstances,
the father was able to start a small grocery shop in the neighborhood.
Hassan us ed to visit the shop frequently in order to help, and
the picture of Imam Mousa al Sador was hanging on one of the walls.
The little child would sit in front of the picture and stare at
it, and as he remembers, he used to drown into endless dreams. Each
time he stared at the picture his adornment and attachment to Imam
increased, and he hoped he could be like him someday.
Hassan did not look like the other boys of the neighborhood. Those
boys played football, went to sea for swimming, whereas he went
to the mosque frequently in Sin el-Feel area, Bourj Hammoud, or
Nabaa, due to the lack of a mosque in Karanteena.
It was an unseen religious call the predicted nothing, as he had
no relation with any of the clerics, and his family was not uniquely
religious. However, Hassan, the young boy, was attached to religion,
where simple practices such as praying and fasting were insufficient
for him, and he would go further.
His surroundings that were extensively mixed in Karan teena did
not snag him, rather he would keep himself in isolation, and he
was utterly attached to his inner life and knowledge, with a background
fed with the picture of Imam Sador
At the age of nine, Hassan went down as familiar to
Burouj, the old martyrs square, known as city center, in order
to by second hand books, which were displayed at the roadsides or
carried on wandering carriages.
He used to read anything that would fall into his hands concerning
Islam. When he encountered difficulty understanding any book, he
would place it aside to read it later when he grows up
He terminated his elementary education in Najah School,
and he was one of the last groups who obtained the Certificate
(its public examination was canceled in 1970). After that he continued
his study in the public school of Sin el-Feel. The war that ignited
in 1975 forced the family to leave Karanteena and return to village,
where Hassan Nasrallah terminated his secondary education at the
public school of Sour.
When he lived in Karanteena, neither he, nor any member of his family
belonged to any party, despite of the existence of many organizations
some of which are Palestinian in that region. However,
after he returned to his village Bazouriya, he joined
the lines of Amal Movement, and it was a natural choice for him
since he was affectionately attached to Imam Mousa al Sador. At
that time he was 15-year-old, and Amal was known by the name of
the movement of the deprived. However, his choice was
a bit flashy, in a village that was controlled by Socialism, Marxism,
and in particular the Lebanese Communist Party.
Anyhow, his brother Hussein and he became members of Amal Base,
where he punctually became the representative in his village despite
his young age.
During those times, and within a few months, he decided to travel
to Najaf Ashraf in Iraq, the sacred place of Shiites, in order to
study Quraanic divine sciences. At that time he was below the age
of sixteen, and he lacked the methods. In the mosque of Sour, he
met a cleric who was sayyed Muhammad al Gharawi, who used to teach
in the name of imam Mousa al Sador, and Hassan spoke to him about
his wish to go to Hawza1 in Najaf, the village and Shiite religious
school, wherein students chose their teachers, and lived a communal
life. Al Gharawi, who had a relation of friendship with great master
sayyed Muhammad Baqir al Sador in Iraq, sent with Hassan
a letter of recommendation to the latter.
Therefore, the young man gathered some things, some money, along
with the help of his father and friends, and flew to Baghdad, then
traveled by bus to Najaf. When he reached he had no money left with
him, not even one penny. However, there is always as he said
a supportive helping hand. What is more important is that
he could bear the life of modesty. His food was bread and water,
and his bed was a simple mattress of sponge.
As he arrived, he met some Le banese people and asked them about
the possibility of delivering a letter of recommendation to Imam
Muhammad Baqir al Sador, who was one of the Hawza magnates, and
they replied saying that sayyed Abbass al Musawi is capable of doing
so. At the first instance, Hassan Nasrallah thought that al Musawi,
dark colored, was an Iraqi, and therefore he spoke to him in classical
Arabic, and he replied saying: dont bother yourself,
I am Lebanese, and I come from Nabi Sheeth in Biqaa. This was the
beginning of a strong relationship.
Al Musawi became to Hassan Nasrallah a friend, brother, teacher,
and companion, and he lost him sixteen years later at the
time of the "Israeli" aggression that resulted in the
death of the former Secretary General of Hizbullah. According to
the request of Sayyed Muhammad Baqir al Sador, Al Musawi was appointed
to the custody and teaching of the new arrival. After receiving
him and reading the letter of recommendation from Sayyed Muhammad
al Gharawi, the Iraqi religious pioneer asked him: doe you
have any money? And he replied: not even one penny.
Then Muhammad Baqir al Sador turned to Musawi and told him: provide
him with a room, be his teacher, and take care of him. After
which he gave Nasrallah some money to buy clothes and books, in
addition to a monthly outlay.
Al Musawi gave attention to the mission assigned to him, he found
him a room nearby his residence in Hawza, where Sayyed Abbas was
married, and married people were the only persons entitled to a
residence, whereas singles are entitled to one room, which may be
shared with other people. Each student was entitled to simple aids,
which did not exceed five Iraqi Dinars per month, granted by the
accredited magnate clerics such as Imam al Khouei, or Imam Muhammad
Baqir al Sador. The sponsorship of a student by a young man is not
out of the ordinary inside Hawza, because it implemented a very
distinguished system.
After that, intermediate stage known a s surface stage
was commenced, and later came the final higher stage known as the
outside research, because it required a research into the
opinions of the master clerics without referring to some definite
and accredited books. As it is to some western academies, the student
who receives a degree can in his turn pass his acquired knowledge
to those who are younger than him. Therefore, Abbas al Musawi who
finished his preparatory stage and commenced with the intermediate
stage was able to receive a class including beginners, which included
Nasrallah.
Al Musawi was serious and firm. Due to his firm teaching, his students
were able to finish five years of education in the Hawza within
only two years. In fact, they used to learn fast, and deprive themselves
from the holidays of Ramadan and Haj, and even the weekends (Thursdays
and Fridays). They would study without any interruption or halt.
In 1978, Hassan Nasrallah terminated his first stage successfully.
First of al l, he wanted to make sure that he would not loose the
master who became a friend. However, on the same year, the Iraqi
Regime began a strangling process against the religious students,
and it deported a group of them with various nationalities. Above
all, Baghdad seemed apprehensive to the Lebanese students, because
not all of them came from the familiar and traditional religious
environments, this is because the sons of the clerics were the ones
who would arrive to the Quraanic schools, only in the middle of
the seventies, it encountered the arrival of young educated men
who did not belong to religious families. Since the war started
in Lebanon, the Lebanese men were used as a scapegoat, and therefore
they would be accused of belonging to Amal Movement on time, and
another to al Daawa Party or Syrian Baath.
The matter would reach to the extent where they would be accused
of being employed by the Syrian intelligence.
Therefore, in 1978 some Lebanese students (detaine d for several
months) were deported from Iraq, likewise other foreign students,
by the authorities.
Pursued by the men of Saddam, returned to Lebanon:
At one time, the men of Saddam broke into Hawza, a time during which
Sayyed Abbass al Musawi was in Lebanon, and the soldiers found his
family only. Therefore, his students informed him that he should
consider avoiding any attempt of returning to Iraq, since he was
wanted. Within a short period, the young men were also deported.
When luck smiled at Hassan Nasrallah, the raid of the police that
targeted Hawza coincided with his absence as he was outside the
domain of Hawza. When he returned he was informed about the detainment
of his peers, and therefore he departed Najaf immediately, and the
order of his arrestment was not circulated yet in other areas, and
his name was not listed at the border, and therefore he was able
to return to Lebanon quietly, but before anything else, he had a
desire to finish his religious educa tion.
His wish was fulfilled when al Musawi started a school with a group
of tutors from the religious school of Baalbeck, and which still
operates until now. Nasrallah used to study and teach at the same
time. After that he returned to his activities with the lines of
Amal, which elected him as its political delegate in Biqaa in 1982.
With this title, he became a member of the central political office.
At the same year he finished his second stage, meaning the intermediate
stage.
In 1982, the great "Israeli" invasion took place, and
that year changed into an initial U turn within the existence of
Hassan Nasrallah as well as his colleagues. Due to the "Israeli"
occupation of Beirut, the National Frontier for Salvation
was formed, in which president Nabih Birri had a desire to share
a part. However, the religious extremists of the movement objected
the issue, and conflict arose, and the group of the religious people
dissented from the movement. This was an acceptable issue since
there were many arguments earlier, which made them, take a stand
against Mr. Birri because of the argument about interpreting the
guidance left behind by Imam Mousa al Sador.
However, at that time these events did not seem highly risky to
execute the dissension. But when the believing young men saw that
the head of the movement Birri wanted to join the National Frontier
for Salvation, headed by Elias Sarkees, along with Walid Junblat,
Rasheed Karami, and Bashir Jumaeil, they considered the issue as
a dangerous deflection. They in fact saw that the frontier aimed
particularly at delivering Bashir Jumaeil the presidency of the
republic, an issue they utterly rejected; because they believed
that the president of the Lebanese Forces represented
a symbol of normalization with the "Israeli" enemy, and
making a truce was unacceptable, and so was shaking the hand of
the enemy.
Due to these reasons, they abandoned Amal in order to
establish Hizbullah with oth er members outside the
movement. There, the old activists conducted communications with
the cadres of the active cultural and charitable organizations in
the neighborhoods in general, and at the congregations inside the
mosques. Some of the members came from Islamic al Daawa
Party, and this secret organization dismissed itself before
the formation of Hizbullah, which was joined by other
independent religious ranks, and its slogan was resisting
"Israeli" occupation.
The eye catching issue was that when Hassan Nasrallah abandoned
Amal his brother Hussein did not follow
him, and he until this moment belongs to the movement, and sometime
in the past he took the responsibility of Shiyah Sector. However,
it seemed that health problems forced him to leave this responsibility.
Hassan Nasrallah is the eldest son of the family of nine boys and
girls, where Hussein comes second, then Zeinab (Married), then Fatima
who lives with her parents, then Muhammad who practices a different
occupation, and Jaafar who is an official employee, and the rest
are Zakia, Ameena, and Suad, the three are married.
Initially the family was not very religious, as we indicated earlier,
but as time went by the situation improved, Sayyed Hassan said.
All girls are activists in Hizbullah. With respect to the boys,
they were all members of Amal in the beginning, but now Hussein
is the only one that is left. Muhammad does not practice any politics,
but he respects Hizbullah without being one of its members. On the
other hand, Jaafar, as Hassan Nasrallah revealed, is unaware of
his present trends, because he did not arrange any discussion with
him recently.
With respect to the young men who believed in Imam Mousa al Sador,
to them he was not the establisher of Amal only, rather
he, in addition, was somehow the establisher of Hizbullah as well.
He was everyones guide, and they all regarded him as their
father. However, after his disappearance, differences revealed while
applying the methods of his teachings.
Hizbullah is developing today, because it is willing to accompany
the modern age, especially on the Shiite level.
As always, according to Nasrallah: one must not think that one man,
regardless of his sacredness, can monopolize thought, religious
knowledge, and political awareness.
The members of Hizbullah believe that the greatest personality of
this century without any match is Imam Khomeini (RIP).
After his death, they started searching for another alive spiritual
resource. It was natural to pledge their allegiance to the elected
guide and successor of Khomeini, Imam Khamenaei. To
them, the opinions, thoughts, and views of the past religious resources
still hold great values.
When Hizbullah saw the light, Hassan Nasrallah (22-year-old) was
not a member of the leadership called Consultative Council,
He was promoted within the party, and he himself created many jobs.
He was a participant in a group that calls up resistants, and then
he took the responsibility of Baalbeck sector, and at last al Biqaa
sector.
Sometimes he used to head for Beirut with Sayyed Abraham Ameen
Sayyed, who was assigned as responsible for Beirut area, and
Nasrallah was his deputy. After a short period, the party decided
to separate the political jobs from the organizing formations on
ground, Sayyed Abraham chose the political road, and therefore Nasrallah
took his position in Beirut Area. After that a position for general
executive official was created, which was assigned to apply the
decisions of the Consultative Council, and Nasrallah
occupied it.
His best wish is becoming a student again:
Despite his commitment to the party, which takes most of his time,
Hassan is still insisting on continuing his religious education
to become a religious jurisprudent. This is the highest grade where
a cleric can depend on his special abilities of knowledge and thoughts
to analyze the scripts, and cr eate the religious rules without
referring to other religious resources. These clerics are the selective
group, which is considered as a spiritual entity within the Hawza.
After the "Israeli" invasion Nasrallah was forced to utterly
cease his study in order to dedicate his self, body and soul, for
the party and the resistance. But after 7 years, in 1989, he decided
he was able to resume his education. Given the green light from
the party, he headed for Qum, the sacred Iranian city, in order
to continue his studies, which he started in Najaf. Many rumors
took place due to his leave, where it was said that Nasrallah had
arguments with other cadres in Hizbullah.
With the continuation of the arguments between Hizbullah and Amal
Movement, which changed into a military confrontation in Iqleem
el-Tuffah area, Nasrallah decided it was his obligation to return,
and the party requested it as well.
Therefore, he again lost his chance in continuing his religious
education, and today he still confirms that there is no better wish
for him than finding someone inside the party, who would replace
and relief him from the responsibility of the Secretary General
position, in order to become a student again.
He received the leadership of the party and the position of the
Secretary General after "Israelis" assassinated Abbass
Musawi.
In the past, while he lived in Qum, his assistant Sheikh Naeim Qassim
occupied the executive responsibility assigned to him from the Higher
Council. After his return, Nasrallah maintained his membership in
the leadership, only without any defined responsibility. When his
guide sayyed Abbass Musawi was elected later as Secretary General,
he assigned Qassim as his deputy, and Nasrallah restored his actual
assignments.
In 1992, Israel directed a harsh strike to Hizbullah
when it assassinated Musawi. Nasrallah, his student, and friend,
cried him, and so did the Consultative Council that held a meeting
to elect a s uccessor. Hassan Nasrallah was chosen despite the fact
he wasnt the deputy Secretary General, and despite his young
age if compared with other members of the leadership. However, sentimental
considerations reigned, and as a form of expressing respects towards
Musawi, to whom Nasrallah was the closest person, it was said within
the party: Abbass and Hassan or two sides for one coin, they
are the same thing.
Furthermore, the executive official, Hassan Nasrallah, had broad
relations with the base, and he had the ability to consolidate the
union of the party after the harsh strike it received.
In addition, Nasrallah was the best candidate to invest his friends
testimony sentimentally for the sake of the cause and the party
on a public level.
He said, on the day he was elected inside the Consultative Council
he encountered great confusion because he was the youngest, and
also he did not have any crucial interception regarding the foreign
affairs aspect since his miss ion was only of an internal organizational
description. However, they insisted. After his first
rejection, his election was confirmed by the wise men
via a second vote.
The word Sayyed is a popular epithet used in Northern
Africa to indicate that the person called by this epithet descends
from the prophets progeny via his father or mother, or if
he descends from the children of Hashim. This address separates
between those who belong to this progeny and other religious clerics
who are addressed by the epithet Sheikh. Al Sada (plural
for Sayyed), are clerics who wear a black turban as a distinctive
sign, and this costume does not express any religious rank.
Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah is a father with a family since 1978. He
is married to Fatima Yassin (35-year-old) who comes from Al
Abbasiyee village (district of Sour). They have three children
remained after the martyrdom of the elder son Hadi, who at the age
of only 18 was killed, during a fire engagement with the enemy last
September. These children are: Muhammad al Jawad (17-year-old),
Zeinab (12-year-old), and Muhammad Ali (7-year-old), who celebrated
his birthday on November 22, he asked for Gateau and
they brought it for him. The school pampered him, the
father said smiling before adding, it is not bad, it is good
for a child to celebrate his birthday.
After the memoirs of Sharon he will read the book of
Netanyahu:
When sayyed Hassan Nasrallah returns home, he leaves his burdens
at the doorstep, in order to become a caring husband
and father, but also a man who lives his private life and faith.
He reads enormously, especially the memoirs of the political personalities.
He has been reading the memoirs of Sharon for sometime,
and intends to read Netanyahus book soon A Place Under
the Sun. This indicates that he considers the importance of
knowing the enemy very well.
Concerning him, the party is not a resistance only. Nowadays, it
carries a general political thought that naturally depends on Islam:
With respect to us, briefly, Islam is not a simple religion
including only praises and prayers, rather it is a divine message
that was designed for humanity, and it can answer any question man
might ask concerning his general and private life. Islam is a religion
designed for a society that can revolt and build a state.
However, sayyed Hassan Nasrallah added to be sincere and
logic with himself he cannot deny that Hizbullah has an ambition
concerning ideological and theological level to build an Islamic
republic someday. This is because the party believes that
the Islamic state represents the solution for the society, even
though the country included multi-social ethnics. However, he clarifies
the matter punctually saying it is not our proposal to impose an
Islamic republic by force, adding, giving people a chance to decide
does not concern only the 51%, rather it must concern almost everyone,
such as 90% of the vote s. And therefore, establishing an Islamic
republic is not proposed at this time.
With respect to Hassan Nasrallah, and according to Islam belief,
there are two worlds. Death is nothing but a gate that separates
the two worlds. Some will cross it while suffering, whereas others
will cross it easily. Martyrdom is the highest example of form to
cross into the other world, because it is a different sacrifice.
When man dies as a martyr, it would be as if he enters heaven carrying
with him one of the most precious gifts, and this is the reason
for receiving him differently. Anyhow, sayyed Hassan Nasrallah gives
a note saying that even other nations who do not believe in God
hold a special respect for those who give their lives for their
people or the cause they serve.
He also clarifies that he, today as any father, misses his elder
son Hadi, and that he feeds his courage on his absolute
conception that the young man is within the most purified goodness
of the almighty.< BR>The father indicates that before the
martyrdom of Hadi, his picture was hanging in his house only, and
now it hangs in each house, there are many. And Hassan
Nasrallah seems happy to the way in which the life of his elder
son ended. He conclude this point clarifying that he lost a dear
human being, but he knows that they will meet someday.
With respect to the charisma with which they described
him he said: naturally he is not in a position to give his opinion,
and the judgment is that of others. He clarified that the charisma
in general, of the character which one can use to influence others
is a divine gift, and can be developed via education and experience.
However, education and experience cannot make a person charismatic
since this is a talent, Hassan Nasrallah naturally does not seem
to lack this magic, and definitely he has high capabilities of the
mind.
Perhaps he will return someday to take a seat inside the Quraanic
School to become a religious jurispr udent, learning the rules.
But until that moment comes, he resides within politics more than
religion, in addition to fighting for liberation, and he tries to
energize the party. Some might say: give him democracy
or develop him. However, these meanings do not carry in this case
its ordinary indications concerning western inspiration, because
Hizbullah remains Islamic, this is its nature, it will remain a
resistance, and this is its obligation.
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